> I suspect you like .net and vb because it > hides the horrors of DirectX( e.g. John Carmack's take > http://exaflop.org/docs/d3dogl/d3dogl_jc_plan.html ) Just a little non-inflammatory note that this comment is a little out of date (from '96 to be exact) - DX is a very different beast these days, plus they did a lot of work in the current release for VB/C# access. -- gl