[ODE] Holes

[naspiri]

Thank you for your replies, all helpful suggestions.
It seems to me that a simple and complete solution could be
to model the table and its holes by a composite geometry made of boxes, 
the way Rodrigo Hernandez told,
because if I simply don't create a joint between ball and table where 
the hole is, half ball falls down passing through the table... doesn't it?
Anyway, I have to make some test to see what solution is better for me,
but now I have material to begin :) Thanks


Antoine Beyeler ha scritto:
> Hi All,
>
> If your cylinder has a radius of (HoleRadius-BallRadius), then as  
> soon as you have a contact you know your ball is on the very edge of  
> the hole (and will, in reality, fall). This sounds like the best  
> approach to me (although I'm very unexperienced as well). Such an  
> approach would avoid the need to consider the depth of collision  
> which sounds scary to me ;-)
>
> Best,
> Antoine
>
> On 21 mars 07, at 11:14, Christoph Frick wrote:
>
>   
>> On Tue, Mar 20, 2007 at 08:33:19PM +0100, naspiri wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> My first mail to this list, glad to be here :-)
>>>       
>> so this is my first attempt in helping out here - so both will be
>> flamed ;)
>>
>>     
>>> ... My english isn't so well, I only hope it's understandable...  I'm
>>> a newbie, using ODE in a pool game, I made a demo with balls rolling
>>> and colliding on a table, but now I would introduce the holes... How
>>> can I make that? How can I create a hole on a plane with ODE?  I  
>>> think
>>> there are different ways and one is trimesh I suppose... is it the
>>> only option?
>>>       
>> one part i really dont like about aproximating holes with a trimesh is
>> the fact, that there might odd things happening (speaking out of pure
>> inexperience) - depending on how much tris you are acutally using.
>>
>> for a pool simulation i would consider experimenting in the area of
>> using a cylinder where the hole is (this way you can generate  
>> different
>> table sizes (7", 8", 9", 12") and also ball sizes programmatically
>> (regular, snooker) - and snooker tables have round edges near the
>> holes).
>>
>> when colliding and the sphere with the cylinder and the depth of the
>> contact is bigger than the radius the ball falls in. does this sound
>> reasonable to the ode gurus here?
>>
>> of course this way you would not be able to account for effects like
>> balls jumping out of pockets again because the ball would not really
>> have a hole to fall in - just a "place" on the plane where it happens.
>>
>> -- 
>> cu
>   

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