Mailing list -> forum (was: Re: [ODE] list archive broken)

Graham Fyffe happy at happy-digital.com
Wed Sep 8 07:34:54 MST 2004


Personally, all I want is to be able to search the archive.  I mean,
search it without having to download 70 gzip files or a mailbox file. 
Either have a web based search interface, or an email based search
interface, I don't care :)  All those old messages are wasted,
currently, as there is no obvious way to search them.

- Graham Fyffe
president, Happy Digital


> 
> I personally don't use forums - I like having new mail delivered, rather 
> than having to continually seek out new posts on a web page.  Saying
that, I 
> could live with a hybrid approach.
> --
> gl
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mike Reinstein" <web_fella at hotmail.com>
> To: <Barog at pineapple-interactive.com>; <Ode at q12.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 12:19 AM
> Subject: RE: Mailing list -> forum (was: Re: [ODE] list archive broken)
> 
> 
> >I would like to take this opportuunity to add my 2 cents.
> >
> > Forum software can easily be modified to get the best of both 
> > worlds...phpbb already has topic reply notification capabilities
that will 
> > email people watching the thread. This could be extended to have the 
> > forums send the content of the posts in much the same way they are
being 
> > sent by the mailing list. This has several beneficial consequences:
> >
> > a) it provides a much, much nicer interface for storing answers to
these 
> > issues that come up
> > b) it provides a way to partition issues by category, and thereby 
> > improving data retrieval later
> > c) it saves bandwidth, by partitioning traffic by category (Joe
Schmoe may 
> > not be interested in build related issues, and can set his forum
acct up 
> > to only forward topic replies for posts in the DirectX or OpenGL ODE 
> > related categories)
> >
> >
> > One of my my responsibilities at work involves acting as sole
maintainer 
> > of both mail lists and forums. I've found this system to work quite
well, 
> > in that it solved a variety of issues various people have brought up.
> >
> > Let me know what you folks think :)
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > &gt;From: &quot;Simon Barratt&quot; 
> > &lt;Barog at pineapple-interactive.com&gt;
> > &gt;To: &lt;Ode at q12.org&gt;
> > &gt;Subject: RE: Mailing list -&gt; forum (was: Re: [ODE] list archive 
> > broken)
> > &gt;Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 20:27:48 +0100
> > &gt;
> > &gt;I'd rather we just have two mailing lists.. One kind of
ode-devel and 
> > one just 'ode'..
> > &gt;Then development matters / techy discussion can go on and the
helpful 
> > people can help newbies to ODE in the general one.
> > &gt;
> > &gt;Though I'm never likely to be as active as Jon I agree that I go to 
> > forums less than I read each mail coming in the inbox :)
> > &gt;
> > &gt;Simon
> > &gt;
> > &gt;-----Original Message-----
> > &gt;From: ode-bounces at q12.org [mailto:ode-bounces at q12.org] On Behalf Of 
> > Jon Watte
> > &gt;Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 7:26 PM
> > &gt;To: Ode at Q12. Org
> > &gt;Subject: RE: Mailing list -&gt; forum (was: Re: [ODE] list archive 
> > broken)
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;A forum, you have to GO TO.
> > &gt;A mailing list, you get in your inbox.
> > &gt;I would be (much) less active on a forum.
> > &gt;
> > &gt;Cheers,
> > &gt;
> > &gt; / h+
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;-----Original Message-----
> > &gt;From: ode-bounces at q12.org [mailto:ode-bounces at q12.org]On Behalf Of 
> > adrianotiger
> > &gt;Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 7:37 AM
> > &gt;To: ode at q12.org
> > &gt;Subject: Re: Mailing list -&gt; forum (was: Re: [ODE] list archive 
> > broken)
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;Forum is easy to set up....
> > &gt;Mails can't do more than a forum...
> > &gt;I made a forum for ODE as example on:
> > &gt;http://ode.petrucci.ch/
> > &gt;
> > &gt;If Russell wan't made one, you can use this... I have enough space 
> > (100MB) should be enough, and the server is fast :D
> > &gt;
> > &gt;Bye, Adriano
> > &gt;
> > &gt;PS: The forum was set up in 30minutes, it is only to show that a
Forum 
> > is easy to use and more efficient to search something, because it has 
> > differents section, and every section is ordered by date (like emails).
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt;----- Original Message -----
> > &gt;From: &quot;Vrej Melkonian&quot; &lt;vmelkon at yahoo.com&gt;
> > &gt;To: &lt;ode at q12.org&gt;
> > &gt;Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 3:31 PM
> > &gt;Subject: Re: Mailing list -&gt; forum (was: Re: [ODE] list archive 
> > broken)
> > &gt;
> > &gt;
> > &gt; &gt; That's true. Why isn't a forum used. phpbb or whatever.
> > &gt; &gt;
> > &gt; &gt; --- Amund Børsand &lt;amund at offroad.no&gt; wrote:
> > &gt; &gt;
> > &gt; &gt; &gt;
> > &gt; &gt; &gt; I have mentioned this before, but I'd like to cast my
vote 
> > again. I
> > &gt; &gt; &gt; think a forum would be much better, it could be split in 
> > let's say a
> > &gt; &gt; &gt; newbie section, a &quot;normal&quot; section and a ODE 
> > internals section. I am
> > &gt; &gt; &gt; quite frustrated with this mailing list, going on and
off 
> > it,
> > &gt; &gt; &gt; because I am tired of getting so much mail where only
1% is
> > &gt; &gt; &gt; interesting, also my questions seem to disappear quickly 
> > and remain
> > &gt; &gt; &gt; unanswered. In a forum they might stay visible for
someone 
> > to cast
> > &gt; &gt; &gt; their love upon it? :)
> > &gt; &gt; &gt;
> > &gt; &gt; &gt; - Amund
> > &gt; &gt; &gt;
> > &gt; &gt; &gt;
> > &gt; &gt; &gt; &quot;Adriano Petrucci&quot; 
> > &lt;adrianotiger at hotmail.com&gt;
> > &gt; &gt; &gt; skreiv:
> > &gt; &gt; &gt;
> > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; What's about a Forum?
> > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Messages are saved and you can easly find them,
> > &gt; &gt; &gt; there are also much more
> > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; options than mailing-lists...
> > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
> > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; I can open one on my server, if it is not possible
> > &gt; &gt; &gt; on the ODE server :)
> > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
> > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Bye, Adriano
> > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
> > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; ----- Original Message -----
> > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; From: &quot;John Miles&quot; &lt;jmiles at pop.net&gt;
> > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; To: &lt;ode at q12.org&gt;
> > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 5:45 PM
> > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Subject: RE: [ODE] list archive broken
> > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
> > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
> > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; It has never worked, as far as I'm aware.  I've
> > &gt; &gt; &gt; reported it a couple of
> > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; times.
> > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
> > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; -- jm
> > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
> > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
> > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Hi there I just subscribed to the list
and I
> > &gt; &gt; &gt; wanted to download
> > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; the full archive
> > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; but the link on the page
> > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
(http://q12.org/pipermail/ode.mbox/ode.mbox)
> > &gt; &gt; &gt; gives a
> > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 500 internal server error
> > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
> > &gt; &gt; &gt; _______________________________________________
> > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; ODE mailing list
> > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; ODE at q12.org
> > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; http://q12.org/mailman/listinfo/ode
> > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
> > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
> > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; _______________________________________________
> > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; ODE mailing list
> > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; ODE at q12.org
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> > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
> > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; _______________________________________________
> > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; ODE mailing list
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> > &gt; &gt; &gt;
> > &gt; &gt; &gt; --
> > &gt; &gt; &gt; Amund Børsand &lt;amund £ offroad . no&gt;
> > &gt; &gt; &gt;
> > &gt; &gt; &gt;
> > &gt; &gt; &gt; _______________________________________________
> > &gt; &gt; &gt; ODE mailing list
> > &gt; &gt; &gt; ODE at q12.org
> > &gt; &gt; &gt; http://q12.org/mailman/listinfo/ode
> > &gt; &gt; &gt;
> > &gt; &gt;
> > &gt; &gt;
> > &gt; &gt;
> > &gt; &gt;
> > &gt; &gt; __________________________________
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