[ODE] Using OpenGL for graphics..

[vishwas rao]

Thanks...
I know we cant use screenshots for 3d animations...
but we have to render scene at runtime...
i was asking whether we can render scene at runtime using irrlicht.
i have this doubt because none of the tutorial given in that seem to
render at runtime.. they all use the already present images.
For example for a simple bouncing ball simulation what we do is we
call a function which draws the ball at a given position.
So i dint know whether we can do such stuff in irrlicht or not..
if we can , can u redirect me to some resources???
sorry if i am asking too many naive questions

On 8/7/07, Jon Watte (ODE) <hplus-ode at mindcontrol.org> wrote:
> You seem to completely lack an understanding of how 3D simulation and
> graphics work. Nobody uses screen shots for a 3D simulation. I suggest
> you first go to the site http://www.gamedev.net/ and look in the "for
> beginners" "start here" section. Read the reference material on 3D
> graphics, which includes things like models, textures, animations, and
> the 3D pipeline. Then read up on physical simulation in general, of
> which ODE is one of many approaches. When you know enough of those
> subjects, ODE (and this mailing list) can help you.
>
> If you work at it, and already know how to write working code for
> computer programs, and already know enough linear algebra to understand
> 3D representation (vectors, matrices, projections mostly), I believe you
> can self-teach yourself enough 3D graphics to be at that point six
> months from now, assuming you are motivated.
>
> Cheers,
>
>           / h+
>
> vishwas rao wrote:
> > No no...
> > u are not getting my point....
> > i am not telling that i can upload only jpegs...
> > what i am asking is whether i shudd have the screenshots of the
> > animation before hand or
> > at run time it will generate images and render??
> > I basically wanna how exactly irrlicht works...
> >
> > On 8/7/07, Vrej Melkonian <vmelkon at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> In what way does it modify the jpeg?
> >>
> >> If it adds a alpha layer, then you can use some other
> >> image format that supports alpha, like png. It can
> >> save loading time, but loading time doesn't matter so
> >> much. Runtime is more important.
> >>
> >> Anyway, as a programmer, you have full control over
> >> the code. Upload your jpeg (or png) as you like.
> >>
> >> --- vishwas rao <vishwas1984 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Hello..
> >>> Thanks for all the replies..
> >>> I ws looking irrlitch yesterday...
> >>> can i do the Biliard game simulation at real
> >>> time...???
> >>> I mean most of the example codes seem to take
> >>> already saved jpegs and
> >>> then modifies them.
> >>> For real time simulation is it feasible??
> >>> Thanks
> >>> Vishwas
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 8/7/07, Jon Watte (ODE)
> >>> <hplus-ode at mindcontrol.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Writing your own GL is entirely the wrong way to
> >>>>
> >>> go about it.
> >>>
> >>>> Search for existing graphics and physics
> >>>>
> >>> integrations (aka "game
> >>>
> >>>> engines") and find one that matches your needs and
> >>>>
> >>> skill sets. Create
> >>>
> >>>> the game using that already pre-written code.
> >>>>
> >>>> Libraries that use ODE and OpenGL include
> >>>>
> >>> Irrlicht, OgreODE and (AFAICR)
> >>>
> >>>> CrystalSpace.
> >>>>
> >>>> However, if the question really was "how do I
> >>>>
> >>> model the cue, the balls,
> >>>
> >>>> the table with walls, and the cups, using ODE"
> >>>>
> >>> then please ask that
> >>>
> >>>> question, and I'm sure we can give some more
> >>>>
> >>> precise answers.
> >>>
> >>>> Cheers,
> >>>>
> >>>>           / h+
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Vrej Melkonian wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Start by learning GL. Read the Red Book which
> >>>>>
> >>> you can
> >>>
> >>>>> find online. Read tutorials like
> >>>>> http://nehe.gamedev.net
> >>>>>
> >>>>> then you can put together what you have learned
> >>>>>
> >>> with
> >>>
> >>>>> ODE.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> How do i do that?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> By studying or copy someone else's code :)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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