SourceForge's anonymous CVS servers are up again, at the time of writing. Not that anything new and exciting has magically appeared in ODE's CVS repository in the meantime. :) --Adam -- Adam D. Moss . ,,^^ adam@gimp.org http://www.foxbox.org/ co:3 "She felt rudderless and directionless, like the dead sheep the November rains had carried down the river."