Hey! Russel, if you'd like, please add http://www.cambrianlabs.com/Mattias/DelphiODE/ to the community page? It's the homepage of the delphi import of ODE. If anyone wants to see some more evolved life, check out http://www.cambrianlabs.com/Mattias/Evolved/ , where I use Genetic Programming to evolve a hopper. Russel, if you want to, you could add that also. cheers, mattias